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Extremely extremely cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I didn't explain ... my negative In respond to spitfirebill: I added that point due to the fact that when I had to discover a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I had to go via every one in every junkyard in South Jersey to discover one that had not been sludged up truly severely.
Bernie: Which is a better van, while we're going to discuss a few problems of these vans, however I I'm clearly not going to appear and say one is far better than the other. So if that's what you're seeking, you'll need to wait. Mark: So what are a few of the distinctions in between these two brand names? Bernie: Well, they're basically the same lorry.
Mark: So, well, let's begin with engines then. Let's chat concerning engine and actually just to specify that the design years, we're going to begin from 2000 and up, you know, I indicate, these vans have been around for a long time.
And, you know, for a version of a Chevy van has been around given that, you understand, around that time also. So we're not going to obtain back into, right into the earlier stuff. Because 2000, I indicate, Ford's, you can obtain these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are far more prominent and I wouldn't truly suggest a V6 engine.
There's a lot of issues with these engines. In the earlier 2000 stimulate plugs with blow to these engines, due to the fact that they didn't have enough threading in the spark plug, which triggered issues.
If you're purchasing anything from possibly 08 and newer, you're not going to have that kind of spark plug concerns. Other locations though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will leakage, they'll create coolant leakages. It's a plastic manifold generally you have to replace the entire thing.
And there's some concerns, the Ford engine I need to state in their favour, since I'm chatting concerning problems, it's an extra advanced engine. Expenses camera, so you're obtaining even more power and performance out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is a simpler style with press poles.
They're just really rather excellent, durable, strong engines. You understand, being a van, certainly, you understand, doing any kind of solution on them is extra challenging because you've got to eliminate that cover and get right into maintenance in odd ways. Things like spark plugs last an awful lengthy time, so they do not need to be replaced very commonly.
Mark: Can you buy these vans with diesel engines? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can't consider if we've ever done a Chevy, however Chevy, they're offered from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have had diesels in them for a long period of time, like back prior to the 2000 design year.
You know, that's still available. I would certainly not suggest a diesel unless you're carrying extremely heavy loads. Diesels need to be worked. That's really the bottom line with a diesel. So if you're a say, I do not understand, I'm just going to say a plumber and you have actually obtained like a great deal of heavyweight inside your van and you're towing a trailer behind it, that would be an actually excellent use having a diesel powered van.
In all fairness, it looks like the diesels are, they appear to have much less troubles in vans than they do in the vehicles. Probably since they aren't worked so hard, yet when points take place, they're truly expensive to take care of. We have actually got a great deal of video clips and information concerning diesels, particularly the Fords.
So you really need to think twice concerning getting a diesel in a van. That's my recommendation. Mark: Yeah, so in shape for purpose, ensure that you're fitting the engine that you're purchasing for the function that you're endeavouring to satisfy. Bernie: Yeah, exactly. And I will certainly state, Chevy is virtually restricted to V8 engines, but Ford has a V 10 engine also, which is an impressive gas guzzling engine.
However if you're, and once more, we're simply discussing type of a directly, regular freight van here. The diesel certainly isn't the very best choice. Take a look at your purpose, your use, just how much weight you're carrying and that'll help you make the choice. Mark: What regarding the transmission and the rest of the drive train? Bernie: They're virtually equal.
One point that we haven't spoken about here is what type of van. These vans are, and it depends upon what version, they're offered ever before from half bunch to one bunch framework and actually some of the cutaway vans are in fact a lot more durable, like, you recognize, 450s and 550s for claim the Fords.
However typically the drive trains, you recognize, I discover them to be practically equal. Mark: So allow's discuss guiding and suspension. Exactly how do they contrast? Bernie: You recognize, I'm going to provide the edge to Ford on this set. And the factor for Ford is that it's a little easier.
There's much less guiding link involved in a Chevy. There are less parts to use out. They do a round joints that use out. Do Chevy's, however it appears, and the Chevy's most likely last a little bit longer than the Fords, however the, you understand, the steering linkage is much less complex, so there's less components and less products to use out.
The adventure in a Ford is possibly a little much more truck like yet I do not understand if you 'd in fact ever before actually observed a difference in between the two. It seems like their elements are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy.
Somehow, they appear to last for one brake task. And after that a lot of times we take the brakes off and state, Oh, the dust boots torn, and so the caliper needs to be changed. I assume on a Ford and you can anticipate to spend a bit even more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to digress back before the 2000 design years, there were some Chevy vans that had really negative doors. I mean, the sliding doors were crap, you recognize, actually terribly constructed. Actually, I would certainly claim that if you are also considering something older, it appears like Chevy and GMC vans really and their vehicles as a whole truly took a leap forward in top quality around the 2000 model year, because there was a great deal of things where the brakes as an example would not last really long in any way.
Yet if we're taking a look at the 2000 newer, I mean, I 'd state they're both most likely virtually equivalent in high quality, fit and coating, you understand, some of the traveler vans, certainly we'll have nicer consultations than the cargo vans. However I can't say that of them stands out to me a little greater than the other.
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